and he says it has decreased in nigeria, india and afghanistan, and afghanistan it. they have -- [inaudible] but it increased from 60 some the 144 from 2005-2010. he didn't give reasons our hypotheses why this might be so. let it seems to indicate that there are parts of the country that just are too restless or not under the control of the vaccinations. do you have some insight on that? >> those are absolute numbers. 167, again, besides the population has to be borne in mind. of the four countries you mention, the fastest population growth has been pakistan. and so, therefore, we have more infants that require the polio vaccination. we have a national program for polio eradication. when prime minister took over in 1993, for the second term, it was one of our first priorities and we got it down instantly. right now in the last or years or so, the numbers have spiked a little bit. and they have primarily been in one area. and that has had to do with two things. one, is certain clerics making the provision that these vaccines are some kind of instruments of the devil,